fire and ice started around 3 years ago in 2000 when t.g gutta/turbo-g aka johnny w. started recording with lil-g/loco/bc a.k.a gregg a. becouse of money problems back in the day ....they met one another at taco bell where they first met 3 years previusly working together....since then they have colaberated and worked on more than 200 songs to date...as well as done many stage shows and venuse around the us together....t.g. gutta has also worked with longtime friends the oversat crew for long time...as well as recorded demos with them.....long time friends tg gutta and lil-g have worked with several groups and are currently making promos for a worlwide concert event premeire...........t.g.gutter would like to say rip to tupac shakur you always be a legend homie hot97^s the whole oversatcrew king doug miah vill longbear and knoxvegas in general.......lil-g for his management and production one more wild 98.7 and dj angie martinez nyc love,audi5rebound